Chapter 1007 September 1963
Book 2. Part Two: Conversations
13 April 1962
EXPERIENCE ON THE NIGHT OF 12 APRIL 1962
After several weeks of grave illness which threatened the Mother’s life.
Suddenly in the night I woke with the full awareness of what we could call the Yoga of the World. The Supreme Love was mani-festing through big pulsations, and each pulsation was bringing the world further in its manifestation. It was the formidable pulsations of the eternal stupendous Love, only Love. Each pulsation of the Love was carrying the universe further in its manifestation.
And there was the certitude that what is to be done is done and that the Supramental Manifestation is realised.
Everything was impersonal, nothing was individual. This was going on and on and on and on. The certitude that what is to be done is done. All the results of the falsehood had disappeared: death was an illusion, sickness was an illusion, ignorance was an illusion — something that had no reality, no existence. Only Love and Love and Love and Love — immense, formidable, stupendous, carrying everything.
And how to express it in the world? It was like an impossibility, because of the contradiction. But then it came: “You have accepted that the world should know the Supramental Truth... and it will be expressed totally, integrally.” Yes, yes....
And the thing is done.
(Long silence)
The individual consciousness came back: just the sense of a limitation, a limitation of pain; without that, no individual.
And we set out again on the way, sure of Victory. The skies are full of the songs of Victory. The Truth alone exists; it alone shall be manifested. Forward!
Glory to Thee, Lord, Supreme Triumpher!
(Silence)
Now, to the work.
Patience, endurance, perfect equality, and an absolute faith.
(Silence)
What I am saying is nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing but words if I compare it to the experience.
And our consciousness is the same, absolutely the same as that of the Lord. There was no difference, no difference.
We are That, we are That, we are That.
(Silence)
Later I shall explain better. The instrument is not yet ready. This is only the beginning.
Afterwards Mother added:
The experience lasted for at least four hours. There are many things which I shall say later.
DIALOGUE WITH A MATERIALIST
O Death, thou speakest Truth but Truth that slays, I answer to thee with the Truth that saves.
The other day, in dealing with a question of work, I had occasion to explain my position from the standpoint of the materialists’ conviction. I do not know where they stand now, for I do not concern myself with that generally.
For them, all the experiences that men have are the result of a mental phenomenon — it is that. We have attained a progressive mental development. They would be quite unable to say why or how! — but in brief, it is Matter that has developed Life, and Life that has developed Mind, and all the so-called spiritual experi-ences of man are mental constructions — they use other words, but I believe that this is their idea. In any case, it is a negation of all spiritual existence in itself and a negation of a Being or of a Force or of Something higher which governs everything.
I repeat, I do not know where they stand now, but I was faced with a conviction like that.
And so I said: “But it is very simple! I accept your point of view. There is nothing else except what we see, humanity as it is, and all the so-called inner phenomena are due to a mental, a cerebral action; and when you die, you die — that is to say, when the phenomenon of agglomeration reaches the end of its life and dissolves, everything dissolves. It is all right.”
Probably if things had been like that, life would have ap-peared so disgusting that I would have gone out of it long ago. But I must immediately say that it is not for a moral or even a spiritual reason that I disapprove of suicide. It is for me a