Chapter 788 November

I have had for a moment — just a few seconds — the supramental consciousness. It was so wonderful, my child!... I have understood that if we were made to taste of that now, we would not wish to live otherwise. And we are in the course of (gesture of kneading) changing laboriously. And the change, the process of the change, seems... One can have it through a sort of indifference (I do not know how to say it). But it does not last for long. And generally it is laborious.

But that consciousness, it is so wonderful, you know! And it is a very interesting thing, for it is, as it were, an utmost activity in a complete peace. But that lasted only a few seconds.

(Silence)

And you?

It is a total consciousness?

It is extraordinary. It is like the harmonisation of contraries. An activity, yes, total, tremendous, and a perfect peace.

But all these are words.

(Silence)

It is a material consciousness?

The action is a material action — but not in the same manner.

(Silence)

How can one come into contact with that more

easily? How can one reach there or be there?

I do not know, because for me the whole consciousness, in-cluding that of the body, is always (gesture of offering) turned constantly towards the... what it feels as the Divine.

And that without “trying”, you understand?

Yes, yes.

20 December 1972 You have nothing to ask?

I asked myself a question about Sri Aurobindo. I wanted to know at what point he had arrived when he passed away — at what point of transformation. What difference in the work, for example, is there between what you are doing now and what he was doing at that time?

He had gathered in his body a great amount of supramental force and as soon as he left... You see, he was lying on his bed, I stood by his side, and in a way altogether concrete — concrete with such a strong sensation as to make one think that it could be seen — all this supramental force which was in him passed from his body into mine. And I felt the friction of the passage. It was extraordinary — extraordinary. It was an extraordinary experience. For a long time, a long time like that (Mother indicates the passing of the Force into her body). I was standing beside his bed, and that continued.

Almost a sensation — it was a material sensation. For a long time. That is all I know.

But what I wanted to understand is at what point of the inner work was, for example, the cleaning of the subconscient and all that? What difference is there, say, between the work he had done at that time and the work to which you have come now? I mean to say, is the subconscient less subconscient or...

Oh! Yes, that, surely. Surely.

Well, this is the mental way of looking at things — I do not have it any more.

Yes, Mother.

(Silence)

The difference is perhaps a difference in the general or collective intensity of this Power, of this Force, is it not so?

There is a difference in the power for action. He himself pos-sesses more action, more power for action, now than when in his body. Besides, it is for that that he left, because it was necessary to act in that way.

It is very concrete. His action has become very concrete. Evidently it is something which is not at all mental. It is from another region. But it is not ethereal nor... it is concrete. One could almost say that it is material.

But this other region, I have often asked myself what is the true movement one must make to get there. There are two possible movements: the movement inward towards the soul, and another in which the individuality is annulled and one is rather in a wideness without the individual....

Both must be there.

Both must be there?

Yes.

(Mother goes into herself.)

30 December 1972 So it is going to be the new year....

Do you feel anything for this new year?

(After a silence) Things have taken an extreme form. So there is, as it were, an uplift of the atmosphere towards a splendour... almost inconceivable, and at the same time the feeling that at any moment one may... one may die — not “die”, but the body may be dissolved. And so the two at the same time form a consciousness (Mother shakes her head)... all the old things seem puerile, childish, unconscious — within there... it is tremendous and wonderful.

So, the body, the body has one prayer — and it is always the same:

Make me worthy of knowing Thee, Make me worthy of serving Thee, Make me worthy of being Thee.

I feel in myself a growing force... but it is of a new quality... in silence and in contemplation.

Nothing is impossible (Mother opens her hands upward).

(Silence)

So, if you have no questions... if you want silence... conscious silence...

But I do not know if I am making the right movement.

(After a silence) But when you want to enter into relation with the Divine, what movement do you make?

I place myself at your feet.

(Mother smiles and goes into herself.)