Chapter 4July 13, 1968

(Mother looks very tired.)

What else?

I’d have liked to ask you a question on that vision of the subtle physical – that material vision which you have with open eyes. I’d like to know what it corresponds to: does it correspond to a supramental vision, or is it the vision a skilled clairvoyant, for instance, might have?

I don’t think so.

(long silence)

As soon as I speak about something, it goes away. So when I speak too early, I don’t get the full experience.

(Then Mother goes into a long contemplation, and emerges only when time is up.)

It’s difficult.... Difficult.

(Mother is running a temperature, breathing with difficulty and coughing. She hasn’t eaten anything.

She receives Satprem lying on her couch.)

It’s the same thing going on....

Do you have news?

I have news of P.L. and of Msgr. R.... But won’t it tire you?

No, no! It doesn’t tire me.