Chapter 19February 17, 1973

Yes, yes, Mother!

...and that, of course, the two or three different approaches are all true. So we can afford to be as... as wide as he is!

Truly speaking, his comprehension of things was very supple – very supple. Listening to certain things he said, I felt I had understood very little of what he meant. Now that I am more and more in contact with the supramental Consciousness, I see how supple – supple and complex – it is, and how it is our narrow human consciousness that sees things... (Mother draws little boxes in the air) fixed, cut and dried.

Yes, of course.

So.... we are under the mind’s sway, and the mind is rigid like this (same little boxes in the air). But I see that as soon as you go beyond the mind, it’s... it’s like waves on the sea.

In a word, we have everything to learn. We try to understand in the mental way, so we understand nothing. We simply demarcate things (same gesture of drawing boxes), and that’s what we call understanding.

When we have thoroughly put everything in boxes (same gesture), then we say we have understood!

(Mother plunges in)

(Mother remains absorbed for a long time, then shakes her head.... )

Oh!... I have to cope with everything that contradicts the Divine in the past and the present, and it’s.... In this body. I mean, all the past is surging up from the subconscient, and now even everything that was repressed.... It isn’t something I “feel” or “experience,” but it’s a perception. The perception... yes, of how all our notions of good and evil, right and wrong are futile for the Divine vision, absolutely futile – unreal.

All human notions are so narrow and limited, so partial and tinged with moral preferences.

As if I were being shown everything in the consciousness that opposes the... immensity – the divine immensity. Everything is so narrow, so small....