Chapter 4September 11, 1971

(silence)

I feel That flowing like this (gesture through herself) constantly.

Maybe that’s what Divine Love in matter is?

(Mother laughs merrily)

It’s so intense and warm at the same time – warm. And so strong... it’s so strong that you can’t

really use the word “love,” because it doesn’t correspond to anything you understand.

Yes, that goes for me too!... I am like this (gesture at the forehead): nothing, nothing, empty, empty, empty.... Here (gesture high and wide) here it’s... yes, it’s a golden immensity.

Yes.

(silence)

I have the most peculiar feeling that there’s a kind of... like scales, or tree bark, or turtle shell, melting, while the body itself is not like that (Mother makes a gesture as if the body were swelling up and bursting in the sun). What seems like matter to man is... unreceptive. And in this body (Mother touches the skin of her hands), it is trying... it is trying to... (same gesture of swelling or blossoming). It’s really curious! It’s a curious sensation.

If one could last long enough for all that to melt away, then it would be the real beginning.88 Everyone is quarreling! Everyone, everywhere. Squabbles, squabbles, squabbles – all the time, night and day, constantly.

At night too!

Yes! (laughter)

And at the same time there is the solution: an im-per-turb-able calm. It’s as if it wanted to teach the 88Mother had at first said, “Then it would be finished,” then she changed it to “It would be the real beginning” when