Chapter 2October 8, 1969

That’s what is remarkable in the physical, it’s that when the physical has learned something, it never forgets. Once the cells have learned that, learned this self-giving, this offering to the Divine, and this NEED to offer themselves, it’s learned, and it DOESN’T BUDGE ANYMORE. It’s constant, twenty-four hours a day, ceaselessly, day after day, changelessly; even when something goes wrong (you have a pain or something), the first movement is this: it’s to offer it, to give it – spontaneously. The higher consciousness doesn’t intervene, it’s spontaneous: it’s the consciousness contained in the cells.

It’s the vital and the mind that are like this (zigzagging gesture), unsteady Especially the vital, which is interested in all kinds of things.

Naturally, the two are interdependent: the ego must be abolished – the RULE of the ego must be abolished. Generally, people think it’s not possible to abolish the physical ego; not only is it possible, it’s DONE, and the body continues, it keeps on walking – it hasn’t gone! (It had a difficult little moment... a little moment.)

Now these cells are wondering how one can continue to exist without this movement of adoration. They’re like this, everywhere (gesture of intense aspiration), everywhere. It’s very interesting.

All those difficulties one has with the inner development when one deals with the vital and the mind, the return of old things and all that, here [in the body] it’s over, it’s not like that.

(Regarding a letter from the healer in which he asks Mother if he could contact the Indian government

and obtain its collaboration to spread the “Spiritual message” as he understands it.)

I got a letter from A.R. You should read it....

I am absolutely convinced that he can’t do ANYTHING with the government, absolutely nothing. But just to please him, I arranged a meeting with N.S.175 and she accepted, but she had something else to do and couldn’t be there. Did he tell you anything?

He didn’t mention it to me, but he did tell me that he would like to reach all the least mentalized

classes. He says, “Here, many more people than we think are ready, and they aren’t hampered by the mind. A lot of work could be done.”

Yes, of course.

175N.S. is a disciple of Mother’s who accompanied Indira Gandhi during her visit of October 6, and who holds a minister’s He can’t do anything. And mentally, they have everything one could have! Even then, there are swarms of preachers. As for me, I am convinced that mentally he can’t do anything.

It would be more like a work of service, healing everywhere, that sort of thing.

Yes, that’s it. But he doesn’t realize what he’s saying! What he writes me people here would find childish.

The only difference is that it would be a living testimony.

Yes, that’s his strength. But I find him much more useful and powerful when he says nothing than when he talks – when he talks, of course, you see... Yes, it’s very useful in Europe, but not here. Here, people are saturated with preachers.

It’s an invisible and silent action that’s needed.

Yes... If he cured people, then he could have influence. But I’ve been wondering if he shouldn’t rather withdraw to cure himself [of the hernia].

Then you really should tell him, because I know this man, he’ll never decide that himself – he

doesn’t feel it possible to take care of himself and stop serving others. If you tell him...

I could write him a line.

* * * Then Mother takes up various notes:

This is the message for the New Year [1970].

“The world is Preparing for a big change.

Will you help?”

And this... the other day, I gave Indira four messages.

Was she receptive?

Yes. I didn’t speak; she stayed here for fifteen minutes without saving a word. Then N.S. came in and she asked me a few questions. But these (Mother points to the notes) I had received before: one after another I received them.

“Since long it was the habit to govern through division and opposition. “The time has come to govern through union, mutual understanding and collaboration.”

“To choose a collaborator, the value of the man is more important than the party to which

he belongs.”

It seems it was just what she needed to hear! But now it’s always like that; when it comes in that way, I am sure that... I gave it to her without saying anything; I put it in an envelope. And N.S. said, “It’s just what she needed to hear.”

“The greatness of a country does not depend on the victory of a party, but on the union of all the parties.”

(Mother points to another note)

The Pondicherry radio asked me for a message to be put up in their office, so I gave them this – and they put it up!

“Teach your listeners to love the Truth.

This is a work worth doing.”

(Mother laughs) They put it up, that’s what amuses me!

(Mother starts writing

her note to the healer)

“The time seems opportune for you to make your last conquest over illness, and to do that, you need some rest in a solitary place. Everything can easily be arranged. Satprem will explain.”

His contact is good, you know.

Yes. S.’s child is no longer in pain at all, he’s quite fine.

His reflection about the Ashram is that there is here a privileged substance, with a knowledge he

has never seen anywhere else, but which lacks intensity and energy, and also practice.

Practice, yes.

They take life as it comes.

Yes, because they have an easy life.

That’s because their life is too easy. If they’re asked to make the slightest effort, they rebel.

* * *

(Soon afterwards, regarding Sujata’s question about love in the conversation of October 1st.)

Last night I had a very interesting experience.... I had a long vision – an activity – which I didn’t remember because I didn’t pay sufficient attention, but at the end, there was someone (that was certainly symbolic), a tall black man. It probably wasn’t a human being, it must have been the symbol of something in my life, or something in the life of the people I’ve lived with, or even the symbol of something I’ve been fighting against in life. And then, after a lot, quite a lot of goings-on, I had withdrawn into a small place with a few people (those I always see, who are always there), I was there with them when that black man, or that black BEING... There was no roof; it was a small place with walls, but without a roof (it was in the subtle physical). So that black being came, ripped off a huge piece of wall (the wall was built with big bricks), a huge piece of wall, and from above (he was above me), he threw it at my stomach.... I felt it. And at the same time, I heard a thunderclap was there a thunderclap last night?... Just one. Early in the night?

I don’t think so.

You don’t know... I saw a flash of lightning outside before going to sleep, so I thought maybe... But I am not sure; the thunderclap too may have taken place in the subtle physical.... It fell like this (Mother strikes her stomach). I felt it fall (Mother smiles), I smiled and said, “He can’t!” (Mother laughs) And it didn’t hurt me in the least! Then he left. And it was as if to teach me... I looked, wondering, “How could I receive it?” Then the answer was so clear: it was to teach my body that it can be attacked but won’t feel anything.

I felt it, but it didn’t hurl! And there’s no trace. And there’s nothing – there was enough to crush you! (Mother laughs) And there was nothing. The body was tranquil, tranquil, tranquil.... It woke me up, and I wondered if I’d been hurt, but there was nothing. And where it fell, I saw it, I felt the shock – I felt it, that’s what woke me up: a shock and a sort of weight, and a gap in the wall as big as a door. So then, the body’s reaction, but instantaneous (that is, without reflecting or anything), instantaneous, was... “Oh, Lord,” like this (Mother opens her arms upward), smiling. Not at all frightened or... Then I took a good look and wondered, “Am I hurt anywhere?” There was nothing.... Because I kept the two together: the state of vision and the physical state at the same time; in the state of vision I wanted to know whether I’d been hurt (it hadn’t done anything), and in both states the reaction was the same, like this (same gesture, arms open), with a smile. So it shows that... the thing is really done.

Later this morning, when I was fully awake, I wondered, “How could I get that? How could that being do it?” (Because it did take place, I received it! [Mother laughs] He wasn’t stopped from doing it.) Then the answer was very clear: it was for your body to learn that it’s really and effectively protected, even if something takes place.

It was interesting.

That black being, I see him very often.... It must be the symbol of the force opposed in the world (not only on the earth but in the world) to the Action I have been given to do. He is associated with my body. A tall, tall black being, all black....